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Post by ss on Nov 27, 2008 19:48:37 GMT -5
I suspect with the right angle leading to it, yeah, we could use the "high spot" matches lol
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Post by hel on Nov 27, 2008 19:53:06 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead an apologize to everyone for my previous comments. I really do want to see the division grow beyond it's present incarnation, and those I'm opposed to the way some handlers conduct their characters, much like Kim's last post, I stepped out of line with my words. I'm passionate about being a big part of the Diamond Division landscape, and I let my emotions get the better of me. Sorry everyone.
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Post by ss on Nov 27, 2008 19:56:31 GMT -5
Apology accepted  We all make mistakes from time to time, the important thing is that we learn from them   lol |
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Post by ashley on Nov 27, 2008 20:13:54 GMT -5
I think it's time I weighed in on this. I've been in XWA since day one. I've seen and been the driving force behind it's 2007 success. Me along with handlers like Chloe, Laree (Sayuri), Terri (Bianca/Michelle) and of course 3X and Oz with their female characters. 3X and Oz have since scaled back on the appearances of their females, as to give the rest of the newer characters the chance to shine. And the idea is the same now as it was when this all began. "You get what you put in." That's been the XWA moto since day one. Nothing is handed to anyone. Title shots. Angles. Storylines. Nothing. It was Helena who approached me with the idea of our present angle. And it could have just as very well been anyone else. All it takes is a PM. I do believe 3X stated clearly once. "Communication is key." If you're just sitting on your hands expecting some of us established Diamonds to come to you, you're kidding yourself. I've worked storylines the whole year, and only two of them have been with other veteran Diamonds, that being closing out the angle with Nicole Roland at the start of the year, and then the two month storyline with Bianca, which had build up dating back to Devil's Night 2007. Same thing Sireena's done with Anjelyka, planting the seeds for a future angle. And both he (Sylas) and Anjelyka (Wolf, AKA O'Dell) are no rookies. they're two of the best, and you can tell that whatever they have planned against each other in 2009 is going to be exactly that. Planned, from start to finish, and it'll run perfectly.
The biggest improvement that can ever happen in the Diamond Division is a simple one. Communication. We're not mind readers. If you want to work with someone, try shooting them a PM. Takes maybe what...6 minutes? Let some one the extend of your idea, and I'll bet the farm most people will agree to the angle, if not add their own quirks in it t further it's development. If we get that going, that's when the REAL fun begins.
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Post by ss on Nov 27, 2008 20:22:35 GMT -5
Well said, and it basicly sums it all up for everyone.
You can have a major feud with one person, and plant seeds with another, or a few others, at the same time. Which is the point really, keeping your options open at all times, so if someone does drop out, either due to personal reasons, or just "flakes" you have something else you can turn to without having to sit around and say
"What now?"
My airwaves are ALWAYS open, as is my mind when it comes to running Sireena. Her only backstory is her relation to Sylas (his twin sister, which she is staying away from), the past she has/had before finding out she had a brother, and the fact she's been in Japan competing with the mixed styles of the puro women. Which leaves a HUGE gap that can be filled. Perhaps she knows you from before, perhaps you were former partners, perhaps a former feud. Anything can be built from an open canvas, and nothing is cemented in Sireena's path thus far.
I have the Anjelyka feud to tap, other then that, it's wide open.
Wanna fill the gap? PM me, email me, or hit me on msn
mykemochan@hotmail.com
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Post by kimmy on Nov 27, 2008 20:36:05 GMT -5
I think it's time I weighed in on this. I've been in XWA since day one. I've seen and been the driving force behind it's 2007 success. Me along with handlers like Chloe, Laree (Sayuri), Terri (Bianca/Michelle) and of course 3X and Oz with their female characters. Now not to step outta line or say your wrong or anything but to me there was more to 2007's Diamond success besides just you 4, yes you were huge parts of it. Yet not the only reason the division did well that year. I do agree with communication being a big part of things, that being said, there are certain problems that can arise from this. |
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Post by Chris Lionheart on Nov 27, 2008 20:48:53 GMT -5
Well said, and it basicly sums it all up for everyone. You can have a major feud with one person, and plant seeds with another, or a few others, at the same time. Which is the point really, keeping your options open at all times, so if someone does drop out, either due to personal reasons, or just "flakes" you have something else you can turn to without having to sit around and say "What now?" My airwaves are ALWAYS open, as is my mind when it comes to running Sireena. Her only backstory is her relation to Sylas (his twin sister, which she is staying away from), the past she has/had before finding out she had a brother, and the fact she's been in Japan competing with the mixed styles of the puro women. Which leaves a HUGE gap that can be filled. Perhaps she knows you from before, perhaps you were former partners, perhaps a former feud. Anything can be built from an open canvas, and nothing is cemented in Sireena's path thus far. I have the Anjelyka feud to tap, other then that, it's wide open. Wanna fill the gap? PM me, email me, or hit me on msn mykemochan@hotmail.com I remember something about LXW where Lionheart showed Sireena footage of him calling out Sylas in TNB as a way to get his attention... or perhaps it was footage of Lionheart beating up and turning on Sylas in TNB because I was going to do something in LXW with Lucy/Youngbloods and BrentStarr/ShawnHollywood. The exact details of that encounter escape me right now; but I don't believe Lucy and Sireena ever met up face to face... That could offer up some interesting storyline combinations given Lucy/YB's/Lionheart's past history with Sylas/Brent/Sireena. |
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Post by ashley on Nov 27, 2008 21:29:53 GMT -5
I think it's time I weighed in on this. I've been in XWA since day one. I've seen and been the driving force behind it's 2007 success. Me along with handlers like Chloe, Laree (Sayuri), Terri (Bianca/Michelle) and of course 3X and Oz with their female characters. Now not to step outta line or say your wrong or anything but to me there was more to 2007's Diamond success besides just you 4, yes you were huge parts of it. Yet not the only reason the division did well that year. I do agree with communication being a big part of things, that being said, there are certain problems that can arise from this. That statement was in regards to XWA BEFORE any of you knew it existed. You forget that from when we started in January 2007 to to March 07, everything was "In House". It wasn't until after the fallout of 3X getting the shaft in APW and me, Yin and Oz leaving as result of it that the doors opened up, and people started coming in. Before that, it was only us. The statement is based off of being in XWA from it's inception, not from when it was made public. Hope that clears things up. |
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Post by kimmy on Nov 27, 2008 22:38:38 GMT -5
After LXW ended in January 2007, I assumed that Oz and X were done with it, they never told me of anything new that they had planned or were going to start and I was always in contact. So I woulda been here from DAY ONE too if I knew of its existence.
Regardless, I think that saying "I've seen and BEEN the driving force behind its 2007 success" really undercuts EVERYONE else that was here last year busting their ass, that was all I meant by it.
I just wanna not bicker and get back to the communication point.......it really is necessary
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Post by Carmella Blackheart on Nov 28, 2008 3:52:26 GMT -5
I share the sentiment, and would suggest that you be more considerate to everyone's contribution in the past in the present and in the future. I appreciate the efforts of everyone who came and stayed in year one, and even to some extent those who didn't all the same because it all in turn helped to establish this fed as something completely different and in my opinion better than the one which I ran before. No single person or small group of people was responsible for that accomplishment. It was the efforts of the entire league, whether they came the first day we opened up or half way through the season.
Like everything else about the XWA, I hold a high regard to each and every person who helps the league, and I do so equally. One of the main points and goals that I had for this place was to not play favorites or hold anyone higher than anyone else. You can ask some of the people that I keep in personal contact with, I come down hard on them just as much as I would (or have) on other members I'm not in regular contact with. The same goes for the opposite extreme. Positive or negative, I view everyone's effort as contributions for the greater good...and just because someone has been contributing longer than someone else doesn't put their contributions in higher regard than anyone, something that people in general need to realize. I alone don't take credit for where we are and what we've accomplished, and I'm the person who literally built this board way back when. That means nobody should be taking more credit than anyone else in that regard either, whether you're member #1 or member #101.
Regardless of talent level or tenure, you are all equals here as members. I hope I don't have to enforce that, but I will if I have to.
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Post by an observer on Nov 28, 2008 8:50:56 GMT -5
How about less hype for individuals.
Yeah some people may have earned it, but when people say stuff that certain people can't be touched when it comes to rps, it can get to people. It is a major factor in people thinking they aren't good enough when truth be told in an efed people are equal in talent or ability because people have difference preferences.
Some people think Diamond is the best. Others say Channelle, Kim Hunter, or Amber. But with this variety in characters and rping styles everyone has their favorite.
From experience it does get to me when I read something about how someone is the number 1 something and they can't be topped. Especially when it's being the best in a group because the underlying message in a comment like that is no matter how hard I tried I won't be as good as this person who people say can't be topped.
And to those who'd say well prove them wrong then. It's a lot easier said than done. Changing people's minds on who's a better character as well as getting the motivation to do it after all the hype someone gets is a difficult thing and the risk is if you don't your self confidence as a rper can take a big hit.
I'm not saying don't compliment people, but maybe not a lot of "this person can't be duplicated" or "that person can't be topped." Even if it's deserved in efeds characters can easily be replaced and more often than not there are people out there who can rp your character as well as you can. So it never helps for a little less focus on how to improve the division and a little more focus on how to improve yourself because by improving yourself you improve the division inadvertently.
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Post by xwa on Nov 28, 2008 11:55:41 GMT -5
The above comment was made from Maniac ( aka Scott Manor )
Board has been fixed so that only registered members can comment.
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Post by Hysteria on Nov 28, 2008 12:51:39 GMT -5
I'd just like to say that next season I will be more than happy to do a storyline with anyone that's open to it.
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Post by xwa on Nov 28, 2008 13:15:27 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't realize that this board was open to non members for posting. Fixing it now.
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Post by Carmella Blackheart on Nov 28, 2008 16:51:46 GMT -5
How about less hype for individuals. Yeah some people may have earned it, but when people say stuff that certain people can't be touched when it comes to rps, it can get to people. It is a major factor in people thinking they aren't good enough when truth be told in an efed people are equal in talent or ability because people have difference preferences. Some people think Diamond is the best. Others say Channelle, Kim Hunter, or Amber. But with this variety in characters and rping styles everyone has their favorite. From experience it does get to me when I read something about how someone is the number 1 something and they can't be topped. Especially when it's being the best in a group because the underlying message in a comment like that is no matter how hard I tried I won't be as good as this person who people say can't be topped. And to those who'd say well prove them wrong then. It's a lot easier said than done. Changing people's minds on who's a better character as well as getting the motivation to do it after all the hype someone gets is a difficult thing and the risk is if you don't your self confidence as a rper can take a big hit. I'm not saying don't compliment people, but maybe not a lot of "this person can't be duplicated" or "that person can't be topped." Even if it's deserved in efeds characters can easily be replaced and more often than not there are people out there who can rp your character as well as you can. So it never helps for a little less focus on how to improve the division and a little more focus on how to improve yourself because by improving yourself you improve the division inadvertently. That's actually a universal thing I see in some cases, not just wih female characters, but male as well. Now, I'm not going to say that people shouldn't take pride in their characters, but I do agree with the basic fact that they oughta know when to say when. As I've said before, only a handful of characters in the XWA right now are ones who I would consider to be strong ones, and just because one is great at RPing doesn't mean their characters are roleplayed great. Ultimately, and this is also something that people need to get into their heads quickly, there's only a select few in the XWA who have the knowledge and attention to detail to say who is doing better, and that's the Admins and Mods on staff. Even with that, it will be as I said who is doing better, not who is better. That's not the kind of game being played here, and those who think that will have that fact as I've said before enforced upon them. |
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