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Post by aimi on Jul 20, 2007 13:26:22 GMT -5
The reason Haas doesn't get a pop? Because he doesn't get pushed. If he got teh uber pushed and had a five moves O' DOOM! like Batista/Khali/Cena has then I'm sure he'd have "fans" going CRAZY. But since Haas isn't freakishly tall, doesn't overuse the roids like Batista , and isn't a wanna be gangster like Cena... WWE doesn't think he deserves a push, which is stupid because Haas is one of the better wrestlers on Raw...
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Post by LUCAS STYLES. on Jul 20, 2007 13:31:11 GMT -5
I was just mentioning ones that should go, I know they're WWE classics...but still, they would be better in TNA.
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Post by chet on Jul 20, 2007 13:48:18 GMT -5
Whatever you say, your argument has been repeated again and again, Haas doesn't make money for WWE, the main eventers do.
And Haas doesn't get a pop: because he has no personality in the ring, isn't given too much camera time, has no gimmick or nothing that makes him special. He has nothing at all.
He was pushed when he came back, he scored a pinfall over Shelton, but got no pop at all, WWE gave him some chances to get it, but he wasn't succesful doing so.
So that's the reason why he is in the undercard, as you see I ain't speaking about his wrestling skills.
And stop those sarcastic comments, sincerely they are offensive, the "fans" make money, the "fans" give money, and WWE loves their fans, and do everything to get them.
And if the fans love Tista, sure they will get Tista.
Haas is simply there. The fans watch him, just because he's there.
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Post by LUCAS STYLES. on Jul 20, 2007 14:02:52 GMT -5
Thats the thing with WWE, they give the champs titles because of their body size. Batista is the most boring bland piece of crap I've ever seen in the ring. He's horrid. But he gets a push cuz he's a massive, monster roid monkey.
Cena..he gets the massive pushes because he's a roid monkey "gangster" and apparently that will draw in the childrenz...cuz childrenz love gangsters <_<.
If they gave Haas a proper push, not one win over Shelton Benjamin (who also needs a good push), then you'd see people all over him. He'd get such a massive pop. But no, he's a smaller dude and doesn't have the same 10 move combo that he can use to win every match, like Cena or Jeff Hardy does. The fans make WWE money because they're stupid and don't understand what real talent is, if they did WWE would have fired more then half their roster quite some time ago because no one would want to see them. Fuckin' aye.
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Post by chet on Jul 20, 2007 14:36:01 GMT -5
Now who are you to judge the fans? Wrestling is pointed towards kids mostly. And you can't blame Cena because he's liked by the kids, you can't blame nobody for being liked by the kids.
You are calling people stupid just because they like cheering Batista?
Give me a break plz, nobody is stupid for who they decide to cheer, I cheered for Batista, I cheered for Khali and I don't consider myself stupid.
And please answer my question who are you to say that the fans are stupid?
Also speaking about smaller dudes, I've seen Rey Mysterio with the title, enjoying a main event push, he's smaller than Haas yet he got the strap why?
Very easy to answer: Rey has experience, he has skills, has high flying moves that helped him gettin over, has a fanbase and has trademarked moves.
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Post by MG on Jul 20, 2007 14:55:23 GMT -5
^^^^he's right man and that is very offensive,that sarcastic crap it's annoying you know what I mean most of the time
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Post by Shawn Hollywood on Jul 20, 2007 14:55:24 GMT -5
Now who are you to judge the fans? Wrestling is pointed towards kids mostly. And you can't blame Cena because he's liked by the kids, you can't blame nobody for being liked by the kids. You are calling people stupid just because they like cheering Batista? Give me a break plz, nobody is stupid for who they decide to cheer, I cheered for Batista, I cheered for Khali and I don't consider myself stupid. And please answer my question who are you to say that the fans are stupid? Also speaking about smaller dudes, I've seen Rey Mysterio with the title, enjoying a main event push, he's smaller than Haas yet he got the strap why? Very easy to answer: Rey has experience, he has skills, has high flying moves that helped him gettin over, has a fanbase and has trademarked moves. I believe Rey was a charity case. *Puts up flame shield.*
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Post by chet on Jul 20, 2007 14:59:47 GMT -5
Rey was pushed because his fanbase was growing stronger and stronger.
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Post by Shawn Hollywood on Jul 20, 2007 15:01:09 GMT -5
I still believe he was a charity case. Made me sick seeing that little bastard as the World Champion. God I hate him.
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Post by LUCAS STYLES. on Jul 20, 2007 15:08:09 GMT -5
I agree that Rey was a massive charity. No offense to Eddie but fuck..."I'm doing this for you Eddie...viva la raza". They're obviously going to give Rey the title and then fucking bury him the minute he has it around his waist...which they did.
And to answer your question as to who I am to call the fans stupid...I'm Alex Fucking Mac. Thats who I am. I have strong opinions and I stand behind them, you don't like it don't read what I post. I'm not gonna change because someone gets offended by what I say. I think people are stupid for cheering Cena, Batista and Khali then I'm gonna say it. I'm outspoken and thats just the way it is. If it offends you well...I'd say sorry but I don't really care.
Batista is worthless but people are like "OMG BATISTA IS HUGE LETS CHEER!"...and thats stupid. Cena is worthless but people are like "OMG CENA IS A GANGSTER LETS CHEER!"...and thats stupid. Khali is worthless but people are like "OMG KHALI IS SUPER TALL LETS CHEER!"...and thats stupid. They're all wastes of possible talent and they're taking up spots where better talents such as Haas, Venis or Benjamin should be.
THAT why I say WWE fans are stupid...which they still are, you saying my comments were offensive didn't change my opinion. See this is why I end up rubbing some people the wrong way...people always ask for honestly...but when I'm honest I'm brutally so. Sure, people may not be stupid because of who they cheer for, but they're stupid because of the motives for their cheering.
And yeah, wrestling is obviously pointed towards kids but WWE seems to think that kids want to see gangsters...which they don't, I am a kid and I have kid friends...they all hate gangsters. Let Eminem handle the white rapping scene, we don't need Cena giving it a bad name by throwing company names into every song of his to get endorsement cash. "I'll brush your mouth like Colgate". Fucking faggot doesn't even deserve to be called a wrestler.
So there we have it folks, [/rant]
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Post by aimi on Jul 20, 2007 15:09:01 GMT -5
*scratches head...* Well, since there is no REAL argument to be had here since I am right... even the Cap'N agrees with me... if Haas got a push and was given time on the mic and was given a "Kewl" Gimmick the "Fans" liked.. Kids would be wearing Haas shirts instead of Cena shirts... END OF STORY. *Leaves since I win... and because your taking offense at things that aren't even related to you... unless you cheer for people who can't wrestle and get pushed for no reason then... you have every right to be offended because well... your the reason WWE is going into the toilet...* Have a Nice Day ^_^ Edit: Grrr! Curse you Cap'N!!! getting in a longer rant before me and every thing
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Post by Shawn Hollywood on Jul 20, 2007 15:11:35 GMT -5
No one cheers for Khali, lol. He's just dead weight though. No one likes him, so throw him away. He's trash.
It seems the generic wrestling fan doesn't care about talent anymore. They just want dim witted douchebags that can throw a guy over his shoulder and slam him down. Give Haas some baggy pants, a nipple ring, and gold teeth, then give him a suplex, a few punches, and a powerslam, you'll make him a popular wrestler.
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Post by LUCAS STYLES. on Jul 20, 2007 15:12:15 GMT -5
Meh..its what I do. But we both win so its all good.
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Post by LUCAS STYLES. on Jul 20, 2007 15:13:37 GMT -5
Such as oh...Batista, Khali, Big Show, Cena...care for me to continue? Hollywood wins too.
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Post by chet on Jul 20, 2007 15:16:48 GMT -5
You people are just nobody to insult the fans.
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