|
|
Post by the1 on Jul 4, 2010 0:01:57 GMT -5
STILL UFC HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP BROCK LESNAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thoughts?  |
|
|
|
Post by MG on Jul 4, 2010 0:24:14 GMT -5
I feel like Brock is the man. So much that he kinda makes me wanna do MMA. But I love wrestling too much
|
|
Mustang
XWA Superstar
born unto trouble
Posts: 50
|
Post by Mustang on Jul 4, 2010 10:52:22 GMT -5
it was a very impressive win
|
|
|
|
Post by Thr33XWA on Jul 5, 2010 15:04:48 GMT -5
Brock is a different kind of athlete. One in a million this guy is. Lots of guys succumb to ring rust (look at Rampage for example) but Brock dusts it off like nothing, and wins by SUBMISSION?
I hate to see how he's gonna be when he actually gets better. This Lesnar is still very much a raw talent who relies on the fact that he's the biggest, strongest guy in the yard. Imagine when he polishes the finer points of his MMA game. He'll be unstoppable.
Next up for him will be another athletic freak of nature, Cain Velasquez. That will be a good fight.
|
|
|
|
Post by the1 on Jul 5, 2010 15:28:49 GMT -5
I watched it live, and I didn't sit down the whole fight. My prediction for Velasques vs. Lesnar? Cain's gonna whoop his ass. |
|
|
|
Post by dane on Jul 5, 2010 15:45:46 GMT -5
I watched it live, and I didn't sit down the whole fight. My prediction for Velasques vs. Lesnar? Cain's gonna whoop his ass. That's what a lot of people (Myself included) said with regards to Carwin Vs. Lesnar, and Brock effectively shut all of us up. I don't mind eating a lil' crow in my previous prediction, it was an impressive win. A true showing of how far Lesnar's game has come along, and how far it still can go. Don't be so certain that Cain can get it done. I'n not totally hoping on the Lesnar bandwagon, but he has made me a believer, I'll say that. Valasquez brings to the table the same skill set that Carwin did, a powerful wrestler with one punch KO power who finishes fights quickly. If Lesnar could stop Carwin in his tracks, I don't see much difference in Valasquez's chances. |
|
|
|
Post by kimmy on Jul 5, 2010 16:41:32 GMT -5
Nothing will ever make me jump on the bandwagon or respect Brock Lesnar
|
|
|
|
Post by x on Jul 5, 2010 18:11:30 GMT -5
Nothing will ever make me jump on the bandwagon or respect Brock Lesnar Why, because he disrespected Frank Mir after he pounded his face in? Not for nothing, but you sound like one of the "Cuck Fena" crowd who despise him for ever reason aside from anything relevant. No, I'm not a Lesnar fanboy. I'm a fan of the sport. And Lesnar right now is something the Heavyweight Division hasn't had since Randy Couture almost a decade ago, a credible, dominant champion. All of the guff critics gave Lesnar coming in about his WWE past and how he was just a gimmick Dana White was bringing in to sell tickets, you expected Lesnar to just take that on the chin? Hell no. People talked shit about him across the board. Then when he stopped Mir in his tracks and punk'd him out it became "Lesnar has no respect BLAH BLAH BLAH". He could go on and Anderson Silva styled tear and run the table in the UFC and people like you will still find a reason to dislike him not because of what he does in the octagon, but because of your own personal feelings of the guy. Not to sound confrontational on it or anything but I hardly think Lesnar cares what you or the rest of the Lesnar haters of the world thinks. He's champ, he's beaten three of the best Heavyweights on the planet in Mir, Couture and now Carwin in his reign as champ, and he continues to become a better fighter. So long as he gets it done when the cage door closes, that's all that should matter. Damn shame it doesn't. And again, I'm not a Lesnar fan boy, I'm someone who follows the sport itself, not the pageantry that comes attached to it. To dislike someone in any stance for "personal" reasons that you don't even know personally is childish IMO. But then again, the internet as a whole brings childishness out of the best of people so... |
|
|
|
Post by Thr33XWA on Jul 5, 2010 19:36:52 GMT -5
Some people are still mad at Brock for how he left pro wrestling, or should I say WWE. I look at it like this...after 51 weeks of suffering from and recovering from a career threatening, possibly life threatening condition, and after only 6 professional fights, this guy is the heavyweight champion of the premiere organization in mixed martial arts. If you don't at least respect Lesnar's drive and determination, you're just plain ignorant, no offense. Even the most die-hard Brock hater has to be impressed with the fact that he's still the champion and did so beating a top tier fighter like Carwin.
|
|
|
|
Post by gallas on Jul 5, 2010 20:40:01 GMT -5
Some people are still mad at Brock for how he left pro wrestling, or should I say WWE. I look at it like this...after 51 weeks of suffering from and recovering from a career threatening, possibly life threatening condition, and after only 6 professional fights, this guy is the heavyweight champion of the premiere organization in mixed martial arts. If you don't at least respect Lesnar's drive and determination, you're just plain ignorant, no offense. Even the most die-hard Brock hater has to be impressed with the fact that he's still the champion and did so beating a top tier fighter like Carwin. Quoted for truth. What my dear brother mentions is one of the most commendable aspect of Lesnar. Last year it was question on if he was even going to ever fight again, much less continue living an independent life not connected to machines by tubes. What does he do? Only comes back after an extended layoff from fighting and beat one of the top 5 fighters in the division BY SUBMISSION. And mind you folks, Carwin comes from Greg Jackson's camp. The same camp that guys such as Rashad Evans, Keith Jardine, Nate Marquart and GSP are part of. I'm not a fanboy, but I am a fan of Lesnar. I love the fact that he didn't just jump into MMA to make money, but to be the best at it. And the fact of the matter is right now you have to consider him exactly that, the best Heavyweight in the world. If indeed Cain Valasquez is next in line, he's got his work cut out for him. |
|
Mustang
XWA Superstar
born unto trouble
Posts: 50
|
Post by Mustang on Jul 5, 2010 23:17:21 GMT -5
okay lets say valasquez cant over come brock, isnt roy nelson next in line after him...to be honest i dont see nelson doing anything to lesnar
|
|
|
|
Post by kimmy on Jul 5, 2010 23:37:44 GMT -5
X, I never said wasn't impressed with Brock's drive and determination because that I do. I wasn't gonna say anymore, however what Mr. Xander's comments have absolutely forced me too.
First off, I'm not in the John Cena hater fan club because I like the guy......secondly......
Yes, Brock made the transition into MMA from WWE and I commend him for that; it was a bold move and it really paid off for him. However, I don't like Brock Lesnar for the things he said about Frank Mir after the match. He was a disrepectful little punk, you wanna talk childish man, that was childish. You wanna be a good fighter, you win, you get you're hand raised and hell even shake hands with your opponent. Not bash them on tv. Next, outright bashing not one but two UFC corporate sponsors; I mean think before you speak sometimes buddy.
As for him going on an Anderson Silva style tear and me not respecting him because of "personal" feelings. If Brock stops and starts thinking before he does his speaking. Then he has my respect. That's all he has to do. Think before he speaks.
|
|
|
|
Post by burns on Jul 5, 2010 23:49:49 GMT -5
okay lets say valasquez cant over come brock, isnt roy nelson next in line after him...to be honest i dont see nelson doing anything to lesnar Nelson's gotta get past JDS 1st before he gets into the title picture, but as far as Big Country goes I actually think he's the best equipped fighter to stop Lesnar. He's might not be as physically strong as Lesnar, but he's the same weight, 260lbs. But unlike Lesnar, who is muscle, Nelson is mass. That makes him actually "heavier" then Lesnar. The next thing to take into account of Nelson is that he, like Mir, is a Jujitsu Ace. Of course he hasn't needed it since joining UFC, but he can finish the fight standing or on the ground. Couple those things, the fact that he's as big weight wise as Lesnar, to him having a strong standup AND ground game, and tons more experience then Brock, and I think Nelson is best suited to end Lesnar's reign. Everyone thought Kimbo was gonna steamroll Nelson on TUF, and we see how that worked out. But like I said, we'll see if Nelson can get pass Dos Santos before we start talking about that match up. |
|
|
|
Post by seb on Jul 5, 2010 23:50:30 GMT -5
X, I never said wasn't impressed with Brock's drive and determination because that I do. I wasn't gonna say anymore, however what Mr. Xander's comments have absolutely forced me too. First off, I'm not in the John Cena hater fan club because I like the guy......secondly...... Yes, Brock made the transition into MMA from WWE and I commend him for that; it was a bold move and it really paid off for him. However, I don't like Brock Lesnar for the things he said about Frank Mir after the match. He was a disrepectful little punk, you wanna talk childish man, that was childish. You wanna be a good fighter, you win, you get you're hand raised and hell even shake hands with your opponent. Not bash them on tv. Next, outright bashing not one but two UFC corporate sponsors; I mean think before you speak sometimes buddy. As for him going on an Anderson Silva style tear and me not respecting him because of "personal" feelings. If Brock stops and starts thinking before he does his speaking. Then he has my respect. That's all he has to do. Think before he speaks. So the reason you don't respect him, is because of how he talks. Ok, that's fine, but you haven't said whether or not you respect his skill in the ring. |
|
|
|
Post by punch on Jul 6, 2010 0:23:25 GMT -5
X, I never said wasn't impressed with Brock's drive and determination because that I do. I wasn't gonna say anymore, however what Mr. Xander's comments have absolutely forced me too. First off, I'm not in the John Cena hater fan club because I like the guy......secondly...... Yes, Brock made the transition into MMA from WWE and I commend him for that; it was a bold move and it really paid off for him. However, I don't like Brock Lesnar for the things he said about Frank Mir after the match. He was a disrepectful little punk, you wanna talk childish man, that was childish. You wanna be a good fighter, you win, you get you're hand raised and hell even shake hands with your opponent. Not bash them on tv. Next, outright bashing not one but two UFC corporate sponsors; I mean think before you speak sometimes buddy. As for him going on an Anderson Silva style tear and me not respecting him because of "personal" feelings. If Brock stops and starts thinking before he does his speaking. Then he has my respect. That's all he has to do. Think before he speaks. So the reason you don't respect him, is because of how he talks. Ok, that's fine, but you haven't said whether or not you respect his skill in the ring. Furthermore, it's bad how Lesnar "talks", but it was okay both times when Frank Mir talked down about him on everything under the sun from how he was just a "WWE guy trying to become fighter" before the 1st fight they had and "I made him tap once, I'll break his leg the 2nd time" before the 2nd fight. C'mon man, you can't be that damn naive. You're losing cool points by the second and don't even realize it. You make it sound like Mir said nothing but praise about Brock, and he didn't. He talked more shit then anyone, ESPECIALLY before the 2nd fight. Then Brock beat his face in, made him eat crow and hailed an equally brutal verbal beating on Mir. Sounds to me like it's not a matter of anyone being on the Lesnar bandwagon, it's about you being a true to form Mir Fanboy. The saying goes "To the victor goes the spoils." Mir Talked shit. Lesnar beat half his head off. Lesnar won the right to talk even more shit, and did. Game. Set. Match. |
|
