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Post by xwa on Sept 14, 2009 6:35:53 GMT -5
In regards to Orton/Cena & CM Punk/Undertaker
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Post by ss on Sept 14, 2009 11:24:39 GMT -5
Ummm... Punk/Taker ended the greatest way ever. Taker doesn't "tap out", Punk doesn't "lose the belt after just winning", and they have a rematch in a Hell in A Cell match.
And if you look close at Ortons left shoulder, after that wraparound stf, I think his arm popped out of the socket, causing the finish to be rushed/changed on the spot. Not 100% sure about that though
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Post by van on Sept 14, 2009 11:56:42 GMT -5
If I have to hear another person whining about Punk & Cena winning I'm going to pull my hair out. Orton's been champion for the better part of the last 5 months. Did you really think they were going to let him walk out of Breaking Point with the belt?
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Post by epic on Sept 14, 2009 12:07:07 GMT -5
Orton's a tired act anyways. they need some fresh shit on the mainstage at Raw. Fo'realz.
And I actually like the hand-me-down heat that Punk just got from the birthplace of the Survivor Series screw job. This is the second time that Taker's been screwed by one of those, right? Once by Angle way back inthe day?
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Post by xwa on Sept 14, 2009 12:52:56 GMT -5
If I have to hear another person whining about Punk & Cena winning I'm going to pull my hair out. Orton's been champion for the better part of the last 5 months. Did you really think they were going to let him walk out of Breaking Point with the belt? Yes, yes I did. Ummm... Punk/Taker ended the greatest way ever. Taker doesn't "tap out", Punk doesn't "lose the belt after just winning", and they have a rematch in a Hell in A Cell match. Ok, you have a point on that. Orton's a tired act anyways. they need some fresh shit on the mainstage at Raw. Fo'realz. Cause Cena is REAL FRESH....yea....not! Cena's act is old and boring. We're TIRED of seeing the superman act. At least Orton was watchable. But hey, that's ok! Because Jay Leno's new show is on tonight. I can watch that instead of seeing the same shit with Cena w/ Belt.
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Post by Trouble* on Sept 14, 2009 21:31:17 GMT -5
YOU'RE tired of it, Myke. There's probably more little kids who watch WWE than older people these days. Kids love Cena. Maybe it's just me that sees that, though? I can tell you though, that Cena has great marketablity, can actually cut promos, and has a champions looks. He doesn't need to be good. He draws WWE more money than Orton probably does.
Fact is, if I was promoting wrestling, I'd LOVE to have Cena on my roster. As much as I love Orton, I'd take Cena over him anyday.
You may be bored of it, but there's probably more wanting to see him.
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Post by milo on Sept 14, 2009 22:18:16 GMT -5
YOU'RE tired of it, Myke. There's probably more little kids who watch WWE than older people these days. Kids love Cena. Maybe it's just me that sees that, though? I can tell you though, that Cena has great marketablity, can actually cut promos, and has a champions looks. He doesn't need to be good. He draws WWE more money than Orton probably does. Fact is, if I was promoting wrestling, I'd LOVE to have Cena on my roster. As much as I love Orton, I'd take Cena over him anyday. You may be bored of it, but there's probably more wanting to see him. And at the end of the day, that's all WWE's about. Who's marketable, who grabs ratings and who can make them the most money. Sure people hate Cena, but guess what? People still tune in so they can have something to hate on him about. Every "Cuck Fena" sign in the stands and sig on message boards is another sign of people buying into the Cena Wagon hook, line and sinker. I'm also starting to really dislike all of the people all of a sudden hating on Punk. When he was all goody two shoes on ECW and Raw, everyone loved him. Now that they used Jeff Hardy, everyone's hero as the human sacrifice to launch Punk into the mega Heel category, everyone thinks he sucks. The "WWE Universe" are a bunch of idiots. Any REAL wrestling fan knows that the Punk we're seeing right now on Smackdown is the REAL CM Punk. The Punk that took PWG, and ROH by storm. The "I'm Straight Edge which means I'm better then you" Punk. He's the best thing to happen to Smackdown since The Rock. Yea, I said it.
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Post by Osiris on Sept 15, 2009 0:05:16 GMT -5
He's the best thing to happen to Smackdown since The Rock. Yea, I said it. Amen.
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Post by xwa on Sept 15, 2009 2:51:26 GMT -5
I'm well aware that WWE is about putting whose marketable. Does not mean I have to like who they put up. If Cena wasn't forced down our throats so hard, then I'd probably like him better. But I don't and will continue to dislike him until he's out of the WWE.
I absolutely loved it when Punk gave Hardy one last smack with the belt. Mega Heel Punch is made of win.
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Post by pancho on Sept 15, 2009 5:13:16 GMT -5
For those who aren't fans of the WWE and the direction they've gone, I say this one thing.
Start watching Puro or AAA. Hunting down recent shows is as simple as searching Veoh. No, I'm not the biggest WWE fan in general, but there are people I do like. Cena, Punk and Orton being among them. You wanna talk about someone who's over pushed? Try Kofi Kingston. Love the guy's athleticism, hate the fact that he always wins. I think it's high time he dropped the US Title to someone, preferably The Miz or Jack Swagger.
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Post by ss on Sept 15, 2009 14:39:58 GMT -5
On the contrary, by Kofi getting this long, US title push.. it's making the title WORTH something, as well as the win over Kofi. The title is only as good as the one carrying it, and if he appears unbeatable, then the next champ will be hailed as "The man who beat so and so's streak", and thus, deserving of the belt.
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Post by MG on Sept 15, 2009 18:52:23 GMT -5
^^^ Trills man. That is so true. They need to hype up Kofi's streak too. They should bring talent out of the indies that is so called good and have them use their name and all. Have them fight Kofi on Raw in one match with Kofi (good one at that) winning saying he's the best US Champ ever. Have him beat a well know wrestler (Main Eventers) just one. Just have the belt go over with the fans. So when Swagger (I want swagger to win) gets the title he'll be so over he can go for the WWE Championship but he got to win clean and not by a special stright up, it gotta come from nowhere.
The show was alright Miz vs. Kofi was good DX vs. Legacy was good ECW title match was good Cena vs. Orton was good in terms off doing a story in the match (Cena being torchered like that had me on my seat loving it cause it was just good TV.) I didn't really pay attention to CM Taker because I was talking about Kayne
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Post by Vault on Sept 17, 2009 14:08:34 GMT -5
IMO the REAL WTF move is moving Botchtista to SD! To ruin the good thing it has going with the young talent...
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Post by Kayn on Sept 19, 2009 21:50:32 GMT -5
He's the best thing to happen to Smackdown since The Rock. Yea, I said it. You know, I'm going to quote this again for truth. Since Punk's heel turn, Smackdown has been way more entertaining. If I could turn Kayn heel, I'd want to go a full 180 like this.
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